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		<title>Comment on Obama&#8217;s Bill Still Funds Abortion by Mike K</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2010/03/03/obamas-bill-still-funds-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-1835</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm...no it doesn&#039;t.

http://www.newsweek.com//frameset.aspx/?url=http://www.slate.com/id/2246905/


&quot;The question of whether the government funds a given medical procedure is not like the question of whether human life begins at conception. It&#039;s empirical, not ideological. And Stupak happens to be wrong [abut the Senate bill].&quot;

&quot;Stupak is right that anyone who enrolls through the exchange in a health plan that covers abortions must pay a nominal sum (defined on Page 125 of the bill as not less than &quot;$1 per enrollee, per month&quot;) into the specially segregated abortion fund. But Stupak is wrong to say this applies to &quot;every enrollee.&quot; If an enrollee objects morally to spending one un-government-subsidized dollar to cover abortion, then he or she can simply choose a different health plan offered through the exchange, one that doesn&#039;t cover abortions.&quot;

&quot;What really rankles Stupak (and the bishops) isn&#039;t that the Senate bill commits taxpayer dollars to funding abortion [which it doesn&#039;t]. Rather, it&#039;s that the Senate bill commits taxpayer dollars to people who buy private insurance policies that happen to cover abortion at nominal cost to the purchaser (even the poorest of the poor can spare $1 a month) and no cost at all to the insurer. Stupak and the bishops don&#039;t have a beef with government spending. They have a beef with market economics.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230;no it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsweek.com//frameset.aspx/?url=http://www.slate.com/id/2246905/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.newsweek.com//frameset.aspx/?url=http_//www.slate.com/id/2246905/&amp;referer=');">http://www.newsweek.com//frameset.aspx/?url=http://www.slate.com/id/2246905/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The question of whether the government funds a given medical procedure is not like the question of whether human life begins at conception. It&#8217;s empirical, not ideological. And Stupak happens to be wrong [abut the Senate bill].&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Stupak is right that anyone who enrolls through the exchange in a health plan that covers abortions must pay a nominal sum (defined on Page 125 of the bill as not less than &#8220;$1 per enrollee, per month&#8221;) into the specially segregated abortion fund. But Stupak is wrong to say this applies to &#8220;every enrollee.&#8221; If an enrollee objects morally to spending one un-government-subsidized dollar to cover abortion, then he or she can simply choose a different health plan offered through the exchange, one that doesn&#8217;t cover abortions.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What really rankles Stupak (and the bishops) isn&#8217;t that the Senate bill commits taxpayer dollars to funding abortion [which it doesn't]. Rather, it&#8217;s that the Senate bill commits taxpayer dollars to people who buy private insurance policies that happen to cover abortion at nominal cost to the purchaser (even the poorest of the poor can spare $1 a month) and no cost at all to the insurer. Stupak and the bishops don&#8217;t have a beef with government spending. They have a beef with market economics.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Political Blogging and Church Collide by Ericka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ericka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrienne -- great post. I love that you had this little run in. I&#039;ve read &quot;In a Pit&quot; and all of Mark&#039;s books. I&#039;m also grateful to be part of such an awesome church that remains apolitical. NCC is awesome :) Congrats on the Washingtonian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrienne &#8212; great post. I love that you had this little run in. I&#8217;ve read &#8220;In a Pit&#8221; and all of Mark&#8217;s books. I&#8217;m also grateful to be part of such an awesome church that remains apolitical. NCC is awesome <img src='http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Congrats on the Washingtonian!</p>
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		<title>Comment on UT Just Permanently Lost a Donor by adrienne</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2010/02/28/ut-just-permanently-lost-a-donor/comment-page-1/#comment-1799</link>
		<dc:creator>adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephanie. How have you been? Several years since we last spoke.

Actually, as someone who has experience in fundraising as well, I completely disagree with you. I&#039;m hardly a fair weather fan. If you look at the announcement on UT&#039;s Facebook page, there are hundreds of comments with upset alumni. Most stories posted get 5-10 comments. When I looked last night, there were more than 150. This goes beyond upsetting a few people.

Donors have the right to use their charitable giving as a means of accountability for their organizations. That&#039;s how capitalism and philanthropy work. It&#039;s how fundraising operates and has always operated. No gift is without strings. If a majority of donors do not like the way that something is operated, they maintain the right to force a change through financial giving. 

This decision reflects badly on the entire university, so it is only fair that individual programs should suffer the bad decisions of the administration. When individual colleges experience the pain, they have the power to reach through the insulation of the administration and demand changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephanie. How have you been? Several years since we last spoke.</p>
<p>Actually, as someone who has experience in fundraising as well, I completely disagree with you. I&#8217;m hardly a fair weather fan. If you look at the announcement on UT&#8217;s Facebook page, there are hundreds of comments with upset alumni. Most stories posted get 5-10 comments. When I looked last night, there were more than 150. This goes beyond upsetting a few people.</p>
<p>Donors have the right to use their charitable giving as a means of accountability for their organizations. That&#8217;s how capitalism and philanthropy work. It&#8217;s how fundraising operates and has always operated. No gift is without strings. If a majority of donors do not like the way that something is operated, they maintain the right to force a change through financial giving. </p>
<p>This decision reflects badly on the entire university, so it is only fair that individual programs should suffer the bad decisions of the administration. When individual colleges experience the pain, they have the power to reach through the insulation of the administration and demand changes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UT Just Permanently Lost a Donor by Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As some one who works in development and alumni relations for one of the largest universities in the country (not UT) I find this kind of sentiment disheartning.  Simply because one portion of a large university makes the decision to bestow a degree on someone, worthy or not, you will take away your support?  So the department you graduated from will lose your support because Jimmy Cheek awarded an honorary degree to someone you don&#039;t like? This is assuming your support has always been directed to your general university fund or scholarship and not your college or department&#039;s general fund.  You can simply change the designation of your giving if you feel that the general fund (that is used at the President&#039;s discretion) is not supporting the proper things. 

Personally, I feel this smacks of a fair weather supporter. Much like those alumni that don&#039;t agree with a popular or unpopular coach, dean, professor, etc. and state that they will no longer support their alma mater. I am sure every university does something to alienate their alumni at some point, whether that actually be the fault of the university or not.  I met an alum that pulled her support for the university simply because her son was not admitted to the main campus.  Yet in the same meeting, she asked about the quality of the programs and if they were maintaining their high rankings.  Programs that wanted the best and the brightest students.  Interesting that she cared about the rankings yet still expected her unqualified son to get into the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some one who works in development and alumni relations for one of the largest universities in the country (not UT) I find this kind of sentiment disheartning.  Simply because one portion of a large university makes the decision to bestow a degree on someone, worthy or not, you will take away your support?  So the department you graduated from will lose your support because Jimmy Cheek awarded an honorary degree to someone you don&#8217;t like? This is assuming your support has always been directed to your general university fund or scholarship and not your college or department&#8217;s general fund.  You can simply change the designation of your giving if you feel that the general fund (that is used at the President&#8217;s discretion) is not supporting the proper things. </p>
<p>Personally, I feel this smacks of a fair weather supporter. Much like those alumni that don&#8217;t agree with a popular or unpopular coach, dean, professor, etc. and state that they will no longer support their alma mater. I am sure every university does something to alienate their alumni at some point, whether that actually be the fault of the university or not.  I met an alum that pulled her support for the university simply because her son was not admitted to the main campus.  Yet in the same meeting, she asked about the quality of the programs and if they were maintaining their high rankings.  Programs that wanted the best and the brightest students.  Interesting that she cared about the rankings yet still expected her unqualified son to get into the program.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stop UT from Awarding Al Gore Honorary Degree by Clarence Jaeger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence Jaeger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honorary Degree?   NO
Liar of the decade? YES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honorary Degree?   NO<br />
Liar of the decade? YES</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stop UT from Awarding Al Gore Honorary Degree by Jeff Crabtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Crabtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I to am outraged, and have written same to the university.
What an embarrassment.
Does the University not read the news.
Can they be so ignorant about current affairs, and the buffoon Al Gore has become.
Furthermore, when he ran for president he did not win his own state, enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to am outraged, and have written same to the university.<br />
What an embarrassment.<br />
Does the University not read the news.<br />
Can they be so ignorant about current affairs, and the buffoon Al Gore has become.<br />
Furthermore, when he ran for president he did not win his own state, enough said.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LiberTea Debate Tomorrow for GOP House Candidates by James Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.cosmopolitanconservative.com/2010/01/29/libertea-debate-tomorrow-for-gop-house-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-1766</link>
		<dc:creator>James Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching the debates I must say VAN IRION certainly tells it like it is. He knows what is needed to restore our nation to us, he does not mince words. Van Irion has my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching the debates I must say VAN IRION certainly tells it like it is. He knows what is needed to restore our nation to us, he does not mince words. Van Irion has my vote.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stop UT from Awarding Al Gore Honorary Degree by No To An Honorary Degree For Al Gore : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee</title>
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		<dc:creator>No To An Honorary Degree For Al Gore : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Cupcakes Have a Gender? by adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. There were some serious comments and debates on all of those posts. I was also being tongue-in-cheek in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. There were some serious comments and debates on all of those posts. I was also being tongue-in-cheek in this post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cupcakes Have a Gender? by N.S. Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.S. Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One notes that, out of all the linked posts above, this is the only one attempting to &quot;seriously discuss the gender implications&quot; of these &quot;manly&quot; cupcakes. Pretty much all the linked posts are having a laugh or rolling their eyes without serious commentary, save the business-oriented WSJ piece. This one, in contrast, is pondering whether &quot;Butch Bakery&quot; is presenting &quot;masculinity interpreted through the eyes of an urbanized, metrosexual male.&quot; The apocalypse, presumably, is much closer here than anywhere else.

Still, I mention this not just to point out the irony but to note what seems to me to be a common trend in a lot of conservative eye-rolling over discussions of gender. Oftentimes, someone connects an issue to gender, and the immediate reply by partisans of established gender roles is, &quot;Oh, God, how can we even be discussing gender here? They&#039;re just cupcakes (or whatever else), jeez.&quot;

But the reality is that the cupcakes (or the whatever else) is almost never the issue. It&#039;s the explicitly gendered way in which the thing is presented. Like here -- frankly, who cares whether cupcakes are manly or not? But the fact that someone trying to sell cupcakes as manly presents them a certain way, thinks that a certain line of discuouse (camo, alcohol, so on) will clearly scream masculinity to everyone around, is interesting. Even more interesting is the fact that we&#039;ve reached a point where a specific version of masculinity is now a sales gimmick and a commodity -- the alleged manliness of the product is as much what&#039;s being sold here as the booze and the bacon.

But, however you want to slice it, that presentation is something explicitly and consciously gendered! If you want to talk about how people think about gender, this is actually one of the most obvious places to look, at least on the surface level. But that won&#039;t stop conservatives from being baffled and astonished by the discussion -- even if, as in this case, the discussion doesn&#039;t seem to have happened, yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One notes that, out of all the linked posts above, this is the only one attempting to &#8220;seriously discuss the gender implications&#8221; of these &#8220;manly&#8221; cupcakes. Pretty much all the linked posts are having a laugh or rolling their eyes without serious commentary, save the business-oriented WSJ piece. This one, in contrast, is pondering whether &#8220;Butch Bakery&#8221; is presenting &#8220;masculinity interpreted through the eyes of an urbanized, metrosexual male.&#8221; The apocalypse, presumably, is much closer here than anywhere else.</p>
<p>Still, I mention this not just to point out the irony but to note what seems to me to be a common trend in a lot of conservative eye-rolling over discussions of gender. Oftentimes, someone connects an issue to gender, and the immediate reply by partisans of established gender roles is, &#8220;Oh, God, how can we even be discussing gender here? They&#8217;re just cupcakes (or whatever else), jeez.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the reality is that the cupcakes (or the whatever else) is almost never the issue. It&#8217;s the explicitly gendered way in which the thing is presented. Like here &#8212; frankly, who cares whether cupcakes are manly or not? But the fact that someone trying to sell cupcakes as manly presents them a certain way, thinks that a certain line of discuouse (camo, alcohol, so on) will clearly scream masculinity to everyone around, is interesting. Even more interesting is the fact that we&#8217;ve reached a point where a specific version of masculinity is now a sales gimmick and a commodity &#8212; the alleged manliness of the product is as much what&#8217;s being sold here as the booze and the bacon.</p>
<p>But, however you want to slice it, that presentation is something explicitly and consciously gendered! If you want to talk about how people think about gender, this is actually one of the most obvious places to look, at least on the surface level. But that won&#8217;t stop conservatives from being baffled and astonished by the discussion &#8212; even if, as in this case, the discussion doesn&#8217;t seem to have happened, yet.</p>
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